want more vert skaters?

[TRSsk8r]

Hey, why do you guys think there's always so much more interest in street and in skateboring and biking than in in-line vert? (more people do those, more money, more TV coverage, and all that)

Do you think thats a problem or do you like being a select few?

If you think its a problem, what do you think we can do about it????

I'd like to hear from pros on this too. :?: :?:

[Paul]

I feel one factor, it's not THE factor but a factor, is the lack of vert ramps. I feel this one, i have to drive 3 hours to the nearest vert ramp. the publisity isn't there eiather, on EXPN.com they only barley mentioned vert skating, all they mentioned was takesi doing the double viking. I feel vert skating might be expanding but very slowly.

[Trueskater]

I would have to agree with the lack of vert ramps.

also it is a lot simpler to just go outside and skate anywhere you want instead of on a ramp that you have to drive to or get some to drive you.

That is what i think.

but also this past X games did not have inline park, so i think that with the fans, they think the vert is more exciting. and i have to agree because i like to watch the vert a lot more than street. In street i think that they roll more than they do tricks. Vert, you have to pack everything in 20 walls.

I think vert is a lot harder for little kids to skate because it is such a workout. That is why the new gen. is interested is street.

[Andy Chase]

The lack of interest is I believe rollerblading in general. Any skate park I have been to the vert ramp is abandoned. Not just inline, but bikes and skateboards as well. The other sports have been around longer and thus have veterens. When skateboarding was forgotten in the 90's the people who showed up when it was popular again never stopped. Our sport got its big boom in the 90's and now it is on a lull. It will be popular again and the people who will be on top will be the people who never stopped rolling through the tough times. Another thing is you need to reach out to the kids who ride. If you don't be nice and encourage kids to get up on the ramp you will continue to see local contests with 30 street kids and 4 vert kids.

[Trueskater]

i really think that most people just cant skate vert because they dont have the strengh to do it. So there for they and can't do it. instead of trying all the time, they go to the street where they are the best instead of on the vert where they are the worst.

It is 75% mental and the rest is physical.

[TRSsk8r]

Good discussion on why not many vert skaters. I think we need more miniramps/spines so kids can work their way up. But it is true, it takes much more strength and atleticism to skate vert. And on street, you can do a new trick every day but on vert you have to work at it.

good point on encouraging the kids who try it.

[Trueskater]

I agree on the promoting of vert. If you can get younger kids excited about skating vert... good job!

[Anonymous]

i would have to agree, the incouragement of kids will help the sport tremendously.

Also to me when i first started riding vert it was like running an extensive marathon, you have to be in goodshape and willing to put forth alot of energy to lay a trick down.

Where as when skating street you dont put forth that much energy.

[Anonymous]

im a street skater but i have complete respect for what you guys do up on vert, but honestly who wants to try something 40 times to learn how to land it and dont tell me chris farmer doesnt skate vert because hes not strong enough, he can fucking top soul neck high ledges, all of you are completely one sided on your views, dont tell street isnt scary, go and try a 3 story drop rail and see how scary that is, yeah its pretty damn scary. i think we need more people who can skate everything, vert and street. but you cant really take out youre anger on vert ramps cuz all you do is go up and down and jump, yes alot i know that, but people jump off stuff that high, i think vert skaters are ot scared to skate street because they have a false sense of security that they are good, nope, if it wasnt for treet skating you people wouldnt have h blocks or soul plates. so stop ragging on street just cuz its way better. and we can actually take out our anger on stuff buy Slamming our feet down and you just feel the steam lifted off of you. bam, you lose

[Paul]

were not ragging on street skaters at all. i skate street more then vert but only becuase the nearest vert ramp is 3 hours away. i love street and park skating but vert skating gives me a lot more of a rush.

[Trueskater]

Ya vert is just non stop skating and that is what i like you have to befocused to skate vert

[Anonymous]

dont tell me you dont have to be focused to skate drop rails or any hand rail for that matter

[administrator]

im a street skater but i have complete respect for what you guys do up on vert, but honestly who wants to try something 40 times to learn how to land it and dont tell me chris farmer doesnt skate vert because hes not strong enough, he can fucking top soul neck high ledges, all of you are completely one sided on your views, dont tell street isnt scary, go and try a 3 story drop rail and see how scary that is, yeah its pretty damn scary. i think we need more people who can skate everything, vert and street. but you cant really take out youre anger on vert ramps cuz all you do is go up and down and jump, yes alot i know that, but people jump off stuff that high, i think vert skaters are ot scared to skate street because they have a false sense of security that they are good, nope, if it wasnt for treet skating you people wouldnt have h blocks or soul plates. so stop ragging on street just cuz its way better. and we can actually take out our anger on stuff buy Slamming our feet down and you just feel the steam lifted off of you. bam, you lose


First of all why try to compare? Sure we go up and down but keep in mind that vert skaters are riding off a vertical wall that's 13' high doing a flip or spin or whatever and landing right underneath the coping. That takes a lot of balls. We are not scared on street at all, please. I skate street infact a lot of the other vert pros have the option to compete in park. Did you think that we just started skating vert and skipped over mini, park, ledges etc. No. We all can skate street and park and whatever. Chris Farmer is an amazing skater but to say he or anyone else is more talented than anyone on vert is a false sense of security.
I'm not saying that vert skaters are more talented. We are both just pushing the sports in different directions. Sure more kids skate street but on TV more people see vert skating. So both aspects promote each other. Can't we all just get along!
Where did you hear about this Forum?

[Paul]

at buffalo Marc Englehart competed in the street contest

[Trueskater]

Ya i saw Borja on TV for street

[theboringlife]

at nass in england borja skated the park course. he could do huge 900's over the box which showed a few street skaters up.

[TRSsk8r]

[quote=Anonymous]im a street skater but i have complete respect for what you guys do up on vert, but honestly who wants to try something 40 times to learn how to land it and dont tell me chris farmer doesnt skate vert because hes not strong enough, he can fucking top soul neck high ledges, all of you are completely one sided on your views, dont tell street isnt scary, go and try a 3 story drop rail and see how scary that is, yeah its pretty damn scary. i think we need more people who can skate everything, vert and street. but you cant really take out youre anger on vert ramps cuz all you do is go up and down and jump, yes alot i know that, but people jump off stuff that high, i think vert skaters are ot scared to skate street because they have a false sense of security that they are good, nope, if it wasnt for treet skating you people wouldnt have h blocks or soul plates. so stop ragging on street just cuz its way better. and we can actually take out our anger on stuff buy Slamming our feet down and you just feel the steam lifted off of you. bam, you lose

Excuse me, but I don't think too many guys hit a top soul on a neck high ledge first try either. And of course doing a 3 story drop rail is scary. Maybe a little stupid, too, if you have skating as your career. If you're just going for your 15 minutes of glory, why not try it.

As for strength, sure it takes strength to skate street. Any different sport takes different muscles. Hell, when I play golf, I get sore! But it doesn't take the same kind of stamina to hit a rail and then wait your turn at the rail as it does to have wall after wall of vert to face. But nobody's denying there are some awesome street skaters with big talent and strong besides but vert has its physical challenges to.

As for taking anger out, sounds like you've got plenty of it and street sounds like a good place for you. Even your ending (bam, you lose) is like you're looking for a fight to win. So what's up with that? Can't we all just respect one another? We all may skate vert, but practically every one of us also skates parks and some street. How about you?

[sam]

here in england its great. at the nearest indoor park (y2sk8.co.uk) there is a very strong inliner influence, more so than skateboarding, but the great thing is these bladers are very talented street skaters that can also hit the vert well, an the two disciplines combine well. as for chris farmer, i saw him for the first time on Adventures in Rollerblading. hes amazing. bladings on the uprise, in both street and vert :)

[10]

on behalf of all street rollers, i would like to apologize. that guy was truely an asshole. it's people like him who prevent us from moving forward. the last thing this sport needs is rollers fighting other rollers.

i give mad respect to vert rollers. you never see them arguing about tight or baggy clothes. they dont argue over flat or antirocker. no one hates on a company without reasoning.

once again, i would like to apologize.

[TRSsk8r]

right on, brother. (or sister...)

[Infinitive]

I think people should combine everything! You should just do some interesting stuff for yourself, no matter is it a street, or vert. Besides, you're skating anyway.

[KYSkater]

right on...good point...your skating anyways! Have Fun!

[Little_Blader]

I respect all skaters, whether they skate vert, street, or park. Personally i skate all three. It shouldn't matter if one person can do a viking flip 10 feet in the air and another person can do some crazy as grind combo to a big ass gap. We all do the same sport just in different areas so quite all your bitching and just ride and have fun.

[Anonymous]

i dont know how old this post is but it disappoints me to see that that guy has thos views.
If he still reads this.
Hear me out: I skate Both Street and Vert i skate at my fullest to learn and excell dont come in here when you think that we are being one sided no one how really downed street except for try to get people to skate park street more. You talk about bawls can you have the guts to look at a 40 stair gap and jump it im not talking about some small ass gap im talking a big gap. Well i have been there done that they both have there advantages and disadvantages. Vert your incorporate alot of style and flips and spins now you can do that in park and street but in vert you can spin larger spins with more air and big and better flips with finess.

In Street you can be very creative you can find stuff normal people dont see and use it to incorporate it into your trick such as grinding up a bent over stop sign or doing a wallride to gap to a grind on a rail.

We need not to think about us as different people when it come to skating. People are better at things than other people some people are better at street because they have a nack for it, and some people are better at vert because they like the adrenanlin rush and feel for huge air and huge tricks way up in the air.

Ive been skating since for 8 to 9 years coming up on nine years and it disappoints me the way inliners are growing apart. If it wasnt for that head injury i would have still been there in on the action when we still had somewhat of a respect for each other.

And what i hate to say is the fact that most of the new genration skaters are not getting into inline like we did back in the day i got into inline when i first got my first pair of recreational skates and then i went to aggressive inline. If only the new generation could get into inline for the fun of it.

Dont worry about waht otherpeople think of you when you skate and just skate and do it for the fun.

Sorry about a lingthy post but that kind of made me agitated.

[TrXtR]

Well Originally I think this was about why so little vert skaters.

From where I am, I'm pretty much the only vert skater. Which is quite a bummer to have no one to push off of. But allot of people like street more. Maybe getting thrills on vert takes a little longer than the thrills of street.

Strangely enough though, since I was young, before skating, I always liked and wanted to be a vert skater. (Be it skateboarding or inline)
And it's what I ended up being.

Me myself, I dont enjoy street as much, I like geting bigger and better airs, flipse and spins. I'm not really crazy about stair rails ... :) I'm a bit of a sissy for those.

[f1shypants]

street and vert are two completely different things when i first started the yasutokos were my idols so of course i wanted to skate vert and only vert and i'll admit as haffey creeped up on my and i became more balanced i tend to avoid the vert ramp more for the reason that yes it does scare the shit out of me. vert rollers are some of the most talanted athletes ive ever seen u never see a chunky vert roller but then again street is so much more abstract and spontaneous which i lvoe basically i love park n mini ramps are my thing when slightly injured or sick of the course vert for me is one sided in the fact i cant do switchups on that magnitude which i can on lil 4-5foot ramps n LONG fast coping we should all just chill n a video with a vert section would be cool n old school esque

[Anonymous]

its going to blow up soon because there isnt as much hate going on towards from street bladers, not having x games helped it because its just more of non exestant now